Friday, 6 June 2014

Nothing sinister to see here...move along...move along...

I'm sitting here in the little island bubble that is the UK, but what's happening in the USA is truly scary stuff.

What's really frightening is that it's largely being ignored by the people. Saying that, UKIP and the far right in Europe are now gaining ground. Didn't anyone ever study nazi Germany at school? What the heck is happening?

Do you have eyes to see and ears to hear? Then watch on. And go deeper and search for this stuff yourself. It's out there if you look. It's the truth if you want it.



17 comments:

John Gray said...

Chris
I find the anti gay segment of the video deeply offensive
. What a shame
How things can change

Chris said...

Hi John
Knew you (and some others) would and I'm sorry you take offence. It is a shame 'cause I know you're a really decent, caring, lovely bloke and I'd hate to loose you as a friend.
There comes a time though John, when you commit to follow Christ, that you have to, at some point, realise that you either believe in Him fully or not at all and get off the fence one way or another. I can't pick and choose which bits of Gods Word I want and which bits I can leave.
I've chosen Jesus Christ and all the persecution and hatred that'll inevitably come my way in His name. I'll get a beating I'm sure by all those who are lukewarm or politically correct and don't want to cause offence. That's my choice and I'll take the consequences just like you will make your choices in life.
I'm a massive sinner John, you know that. Through my belief in Christ Jesus I've been released from that although it's hard to keep on the straight and narrow - boy is it hard.
I'm going to carry on posting links to media that proclaims the Gospel of Christ which is the truth. The stuff happening in the world is literally ticking boxes prophetically to those who want to look and see. Those (very few) that see this blog will maybe disagree, but please know this:

You are dearly loved John. No less or more than I. Nothing we do or say will change that simple fact. Please don't focus on things that you don't agree with regarding God's Word. See the truth and the love. Through Jesus Christ, God holds out His hand to you personally. Take it mate.
I love you John. x

John Gray said...

No, chris.. You don't love or respect me

I wish you well

Chris said...

Sorry you're missing the whole point here John. And God doesn't hate at all.

If you had a son, would you give his life to save someone you hated? Would you die to save me?

As expected, looking at the comments on your blog, folks group together and completely miss the real message.

I'll miss your friendship.

John Gray said...

And I yours
Take care of yourself

Tom Stephenson said...

Bye bye, Chris. Don't die in this frame of mind, otherwise you will never get to Heaven, and that would be sad.

Don't forget, God created us all, but he didn't create your moral structure, any more than he didn't create the Devil. Some unforgiving fundamentalist seems to have created you moral structure.

Actually, what am I saying? Of course you will go to Heaven. We all do. Hell is on Earth, and is an earth-bound place.

Chris said...

Ok Tom. Take care mate. Can't say I'm surprised. Thanks for the record dedication btw but please don't assume I hate. x

Mary Beth Jacob said...

Chris, I'm in awe of your honesty, faith and love in the Lord. It is so sad too many take this as a personal attack when clearly it is not. You walk a path that you cannot sway which gives you strength to say what you know to be truth and it is truly from your heart you wish to help, not hurt people but remember, they are deaf and they are blind and until the Lord Himself removes the scales that cover both the eyes and ears, they will never see what you are doing until it's truly yoo late. Jesus must remove the veil and hopefully then they can reconcile their long standing belief in Man's law to God's Original Law and Truth before it was filled with "the feel good truth" omitting God's true will, not what people want or need to believe in order for them to live a life unpleasing to God, which in their heart, they already know but choose not to recognize. What a shame.

So proud of you dear friend...remember to now allow them to walk to their podiums and let them do their worst for that is where they will be standing as judgment comes. Then and only then will their sight be restored but what they will walk thru to keep that sight, it will be so bad for them. I pray that God will have mercy upon them, truly I do.

Love the work your doing. MB

Mary Beth Jacob said...

Chris, I'm in awe of your honesty, faith and love in the Lord. It is so sad too many take this as a personal attack when clearly it is not. You walk a path that you cannot sway which gives you strength to say what you know to be truth and it is truly from your heart you wish to help, not hurt people but remember, they are deaf and they are blind and until the Lord Himself removes the scales that cover both the eyes and ears, they will never see what you are doing until it's truly yoo late. Jesus must remove the veil and hopefully then they can reconcile their long standing belief in Man's law to God's Original Law and Truth before it was filled with "the feel good truth" omitting God's true will, not what people want or need to believe in order for them to live a life unpleasing to God, which in their heart, they already know but choose not to recognize. What a shame.

So proud of you dear friend...remember to now allow them to walk to their podiums and let them do their worst for that is where they will be standing as judgment comes. Then and only then will their sight be restored but what they will walk thru to keep that sight, it will be so bad for them. I pray that God will have mercy upon them, truly I do.

Love the work your doing. MB

John Gray said...

Mary Beth
I wonder if you would feel the same if you were a lesbian?
I doubt it

Chris said...

Mary Beth

Thank you for your comment which is supportive and loving both to me and to Mr Gray, whether he chooses to see it or not.
Your honesty continues to inspire.


John

Please e-mail me. I have lost your email address which is why you didn't get a 'heads up' and therefore had an understandably shocking and upsetting reaction to the correctly implied association to the contents of the video. Or we can talk here if you prefer.
The fact that you have come back to check this comments box at all tells me you may want to, at some level, continue a dialogue which I would dearly love. I'm not bothered what a lot of the others think about me but your opinion and spiritual welfare matters to me greatly.

John Gray said...

Christ
I don't think it would be fruitful
If you re read my blog on the subject and my comments here, you will know that I have not slagged you off for posting that video I just commented that it disappointed me and made me sad
I understand that you have found something that makes you whole but for a liberal man, adhering to a ideaology that rejects me as a whole person really upsets me.
Now you seem to wearing a badge that you will be rejected and vilified for your ideas.....as if it is a right of passage for your faith.
I have not judged you as your religion has judged me
I am not angry at you
I am not rejecting you
I am just saddened when you say, " I love you like a friend"
Because you don't
Friends love each other unconditionally

I do not believe in god chris
But my chris does
He is a church warden
He prays every week
He is a good person
What does your church say about him?
Would your church welcome him with open arms?
No it wouldn't not with my wedding f'ing on his finger.

That video is offensive and cruel
I would never have posted an anti Christian video on my blog
I like people too much for that

Think on chris
Think on



But I cannot and will not believe that a god would think of me any differently from you

John Gray said...

Strangely enough
The first CHRIST
comment should have read Chris
My iPad changed it under automatic spell check

Chris said...

John. Of course I had noticed that your kind nature and soft heart meant that no, you didn't slag me off. I fact, seeing some of the other comments from Sarah, Iris, even Tom, the initial reaction was one of seeming concern for my welfare and mental state. That is very humbling.
John I did not, at any point wish to hurt you, or anyone else for that matter. for that matter. You offered your hand of friendship years ago to me out of kindness and I hope you can see I reciprocated. Had I lived nearer to you I believe we would have become firm friends 'for real' rather than just digitally online as we share the same love for animals and the beauty in the little things of the everyday world.
The video had an unfortunate segment that I DID see, but posted it anyway. I knew it would be offensive and challenging. It has caused debate and a lot of hateful comments. Inevitably. But here's the thing John. By coming to this point in my faith I am being put on the spot or indeed putting myself on the spot. I have to make a stand for the word of God and not look away from it regardless of what that will mean for me. It is not a badge or a right of passage but how it is. I wish it wasn't because it is horrible. I have prayed about it. I am not a member of the Westboro Baptist church John or hold the same hateful beliefs. That was offensive also. GOD DOES NOT HATE YOU!
Christ, yours and mine judges the heart John. It is unnecessary to clean up ones act first and then turn to Him. It's a 'come as you are' deal. He will sort anything that needs sorting (a great deal in my own case). It has not always been a joyful experience for me John and I find no perverse pleasure in upsetting a friend or seeming to judge, which I emphatically do not. I cannot condemn you John, how can I? In Christ there is NO condemnation, all that is required is that we humble ourselves and ask for forgiveness for our sins, with a sincere heart, whatever those sins may be, however small or great, and turn to Him. That doesn't sound like much to ask does it given what He has done for us, and yet it is incredibly hard to do and impossible for some to see.
We are all now entering a period of biblical proportions. Some people see it, some are waking up to it and can't ignore the obvious anymore, others refuse to see what's in their faces. This is a time where God is separating the flock from sheep and goats. A post like the one I posted seems to have brought out some home truths that are maybe much healthier aired. And judging by one comment you had 'there is no God so do what you please' or words to that effect, clearly the condition of some peoples hearts are being given a platform for all, including of course Him, to see.
I will be judged John, I cannot hide from God. I pray daily that my words and deeds edify and not condemn, but that isn't always going to happen is it. We are both grown ups here and regardless of what you may think of me and how I feel about you I clearly care or I would just turn off the computer. I couldn't care less how many 'followers' lol drop away from this poxy blog, only the one or two that may see some truth in some tiny insignificant way.

I'll leave it with you. x

Chris said...

Praise the Lord and pass the Tippex.

John Gray said...

This is my last comment chris
I suspect we have to agree to differ.
Your god may be the only one to judge
He may love all sinners
That's fine with me
But your religion does not accept me as a gay man, in a committed and ( dare I say it) a sexual relationship with another man
If you can say your god and your fellow Christians see me as your equal
Well then il be happy
But that clearly is not the case chris

Now this is my final thought on the subject

Chris said...

Hi John
Thanks for your comments, final or otherwise :)
You are my equal John, in fact you are probably a better person all round!
Of course God loves you, just as you are. Which is to say, a sinner - just like me. If you have accepted Jesus Christ as your 'personal' saviour, that He has paid for your sins on the cross, then you are saved and suffer no condemnation for your sins. If you choose to reject Christ as your saviour then God can't help you with your sin regardless of how much He loves you. Simple as that really. Christ is anti-religion. It's about a personal relationship between you and Him not about 'religious' types condemning you outright for your lifestyle etc. Wish we could speak face to face about this as it's far too big a deal to gloss over online!x